CNN correspondent Elle Reeve was caught off guard by comedian Tim Dillon when he slammed the notion that podcasts are “a new establishment” because they helped President Donald Trump win the 2024 election.
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Dillon said, “I think it would be pretty difficult to look at these podcasts – I know it’s a popular thing right now, especially in certain media circles – to say that, after running an incredibly unpopular candidate who was introduced very late in the race because an elderly man who could not be the president…”
Wind outside the building interrupted Dillon’s sentence and cause him to stop speaking mid-thought.
He continued, explaining the last-minute DNC selection of Kamala Harris was a unique situation and noting she was not very popular among Democrats in the first place.
“So, to hang this defeat all on a few podcasts and to say that they were the problem, I just don’t buy the narrative, so I don’t think I’m the new establishment,” Dillon added. “And, if you weigh a few comedians with podcasts versus all of the people that supported Kamala Harris, you know, Democrat donors, billionaires, big people. If the idea is that me and a few comedians have more power than multibillionaires, huge media institutions, a whole political party apparatus, I just don’t think people are going to buy that.”
The comedian and podcast host said that narrative appears to be an establishment excuse for the Democrats “running an unpopular candidate on a platform the American people weren’t sold on.”
Reeve responded by saying that “even beyond politics, even beyond the question of the election,” major podcasts have power due to their massive audiences.
Dillon responded, “There absolutely is power in a massive audience, but if you’re saying that power is equal to the CIA or all of these other people that have been very critical of Trump, so if the idea that the power that Theo Von has would be equal to like the intelligence agencies or these massive these massive legacy media institutions seems crazy.”
When Reeve continued asserting that popular podcasts are powerful, Dillon pointed out her use of the word “establishment” insinuates more than just having a large audience and that it signals “an institutional component” podcasts don’t have.
He said legacy media, the government, the intelligence communities and Hollywood do have the institutional component necessary to label them part of “the establishment.”
“I think all of those people, all of those power factions have worked together for a very, very long time. So, to say that a few comedians with podcasts equal that seems crazy to me,” Dillon explained.
The video clip is going viral online with internet users praising the podcast host for setting the media straight about the power of large podcasts.
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