For readers of independent media – or anyone who’s been paying any level of attention for that matter – this is nothing new, but this week marked the first time a sitting US Secretary of State Described the Ukraine-Russia conflict as a proxy war.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio in a Wednesday interview with Fox News described that “It’s been very clear from the beginning that [President Donald Trump] views this as a protracted, stalemated conflict.”
“And frankly, it’s a proxy war between nuclear powers – the United States, helping Ukraine, and Russia – and it needs to come to an end,” he followed with.
🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦 Rubio just admitted the Ukraine war is a proxy war.
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Funny how that used to be called "Russian propaganda," huh? pic.twitter.com/T5y1bRtUfF
He was defending the White House’s ongoing talks and pursuit of a rapid peace deal with Russia’s Vladimir Putin. He also urged others not to sabotage the process, including the Ukrainians.
“President Zelenskyy unfortunately made the decision to challenge the Vice President and start questioning whether diplomacy is even possible; in essence, sabotaging and undermining the President’s plan,” Rubio described of last Friday’s visit to the White House of the Ukrainian leader.
Days prior to this interview, Rubio similarly told ABC he hopes for a ‘reset’ with Moscow. “We have to bring [Russia] to the table. You’re not going to bring them to the table if you’re calling them names, if you’re being antagonistic. That’s just the president’s instincts from years and years and years of putting together deals,” Rubio argued.
Before being tapped as Trump’s top global diplomat, Rubio’s rhetoric was much more hawkish on Russia and Putin, but he’s quickly got on board the president’s plan for peace.
The Kremlin on Thursday responded to Rubio identifying the proxy war nature of the conflict, pointing to a war involving the whole of the Western allies.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, “We can and want to agree with it, and we agree with it. That’s the way it is. We have said this repeatedly. We have said that this is actually a conflict between Russia and the collective West. And the main country of the collective West is the United States of America.”
Peskov added, “So it is absolutely in line with the position that our president and foreign minister have repeatedly expressed. We have said this repeatedly, and yes, we agree that it is time to stop this conflict and this war.”
While not widely acknowledged early in the conflict, the Western mainstream media has in the last year belatedly began covering this proxy war side of it, including the CIA’s covert role even going years prior to 2022.
Last year the NY Times documented a major US program was established a decade ago which three different American presidents. The Times said the CIA program to modernize Ukraine’s intelligence services had “transformed” the former Soviet state and its capabilities into “Washington’s most important intelligence partners against the Kremlin today.”
This included the agency having secretly trained and equipped Ukrainian intelligence officers spanning back to just after the 2014 Maidan coup events, as well constructing a network of 12 secret bases along the Russian border—work which began over eight years ago.
These intelligence bases, from which Russian commanders’ communications can be swept up and Russian spy satellites monitored, are still being used launch and track cross-border drone and missile attacks on Russian territory. That is, perhaps until this week, as Trump has ordered a halt to intelligence-sharing with Kiev amid worsening relations and a spat with Zelensky, who has been resistant to signing the minerals deal.
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